"I am an idealistic, naive, passionate, truth-seeking, spiritually motivated artist, unschooled in the science of law and finance." --Wesley Snipes

Sunday, August 21, 2005

Response to Seth Abramson

I'm really sort of overwhelmed by the attention the NS is getting. I had no intention of setting blogland abuzz.

You asked what the NS was doing to make weak writers stronger. We are not doing anything to make weak writers stronger. I teach college students composition and literature. In my capacity as a writing instructor, I suppose I'm making weak writers stronger, or trying, but that's separate from the NS.

We're just writing poems. And reading them. And talking about them. We aren't interested in a revolution. People die in revolutions. No more dying.

I am not interested in posterity--we all know how canons get made. I don't think poetic "worth," whatever that is, has much to do with it. I believe that the individual poets writing poems will continue to write poems that speak to themselves and their friends, and whatever audience outside their immediate circle that deems them worthy of reading. When we're dead, someone will pick our bones. Our poetry may survive or it may not. Not my concern right now. This doesn't mean we're not ambitious. It means we're not deluded by aspirations of greatness.

To speak of a poetics of humility (something I sketched some notes toward here a while back) while one finds himself a central figure in a movement he didn't really mean to create seems a little odd. Hard to be humble when everyone is talking about you. In any case, as I've stated many times before, we're not coming to your house, knocking on your door, asking to be lodged, or proclaiming victory in an imaginary war.

We're simply writing poems and writing about poems that we like, here and now. I don't pooh-pooh any particular school or movement, or dismiss any poet out of hand. If others do, then they'll have to deal with that in a way appropriate for them. Though we all wear NS jackets, they are individually tailored.

The genesis of the New Sincerity was a discussion that Andrew Mister and I had about the fact that so much of what is being written by younger poets is boring--it's sterile. There are a lot of talented writers out there, employing every tool in the traditional and avant-garde toolbox, who aren't afraid of anything except coming across as real, flawed, lovely, human beings. So much "new" poetry mightily tries to ironize itself out of feeling. After a little while, this lack of affect becomes boring.

This is why I initially made the now semi-famous (and I truly don't know why) proclamation that most contemporary poetry is boring. It is. But that's always been the case. Most new movies are boring. Most new music is boring. I guess I should add "to me." However, there is still a lot of good stuff out there. One of the central tenets of the New Sincerity is that we focus on work we enjoy rather than dismiss work we don't care for. Parallel, not perpendicular.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

new sincerity doesn't seem to be any different than alot of contemporary poetry that is being read. i was told to refer to no tell motel and canary and i find the same hip poets i see in all the contemporary magazines, so now i'm real confused as to your rally

the anon bitched at by you and reb

Anthony Robinson said...

hey anon,

why don't you stop being anon?

i didn't realize i was hip!

thanks! maybe i'll get some chicks now!

tony

Anonymous said...

New Sincerity, though original in subject matter,
seems to be a in a state of a segue. One finds the humor and strageness of the new york school and black mountain, at the same time it doesn't sound like a catty "whip snap", and there seems to be some nods to the emotional sobriety of symbolism. At the same time, the poems are completely set in the immediate. There seem to be few attemps to apeal to a "faux" concpet of paradigm, or what paradigm there is, is readily taken elsewhere by realizations, that the poet, as human being, lives, sleeps and dreams, works, withing it, experiencing feelings and needs.

Anonymous said...

strangeness..humour..whoa..'scuze..

andy mr. said...

What the hell are you talking about, anon?

RL said...
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RL said...

Anon, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you're expecting. Nobody is saying there aren't sincere poems out there already. This isn't a "let's invent something you've never seen before" thing. There isn't a specific style -- like Tony has said, it's about poems with feeling. I think a lot of the poems at No Tell fit that -- if you don't, well, we disagree. If you went to No Tell over the weekend Cynthia Huntinton's "Suzy Creamcheese" poem was feature and that's a damn sincere poem.

But if you just looked at the archives and said, "hey, I saw that poet in Fence or APR or wherever" well, I don't see any problem with that. Sure, No Tell is about giving individual poets' work extended attention, but in the end, it's about the poems. I don't care if someone considers those poets "hip" or have never heard of them. Close to 50% of the poets we publish are folks I have never heard of until I read their subs. And I read a fair amount of literary journals

But No Tell aside . . . are there poems that Tony has talked about or published or highlighted at Poetry Dailer that you consider not sincere? Or are you bothered that there isn't a single representative poem that easy catorgizes the new sincerity? Does Tony have to come up with an official "sample poem" of the NS?

Anonymous said...

New sincerity? Can irony be sincere when it has affect? What's the rub? How much do I have to pay? Make me care. Make it sound interesting. Make my blood boil today (I'll pay you Rs 5). How can I be sincere when I float with pedestrians in space? There is no concrete on the highways above the head. We are free floating, at last and sincere. We are helium balloons filled with sincerity. There is no concrete on the ground. The concrete is the airs apparel. What do you do with a quart of sincerity? Can floaters be sincere? Can movements be sincere? Can new be sincere? Can sincere be new?

Anonymous said...

there are two, at lest, anonymouses going on. jez. settle down foos. i'm just saying that it seems like new sincerity is the prominent poetry published amongst hip, contemporary,lit mags so i'm all flustered on the newness of the sincerity....oh, and when i say hip it isn't something that is necessary a complement, i just mean: part of the larger recognized crew of the marginal. though, tony, when i say that it doesn't mean that i don't think you're a wonderful poet, as hip also isn't a bad thing. i think you care deeply about poetry and it is F'ing' daring.

so peace all you blog freaks and stop reading with such anticipation to bite. i guess that is what happens when you put yourself out there with such extraversion, quite admirable, though something i have no desire to do. i still don't understand new sincerity, but that certainly doesn't mean i'm against it. i'm cool with not gettin it and i wish it all the success. it was fun being a reader.
anamoanonymous aka anonymous
ps
the anonymous who posted at 4:53 is very rad, thank you for the best attempt at explaining yet

Anonymous said...

oh, i mean 4:35

anamoanonymous

Pris said...

Well, one thing about posting anonymously is that you can be really sincere:-)